PB: So, like goys Christian Zionists (some 60 million in US alone), Talmidis are Judeocentric.
From: Piotr Bein <[email protected]>
Date: January 5, 2014 5:06:03 PM PST (CA)
To: [email protected]
Subject: re Talmidis
On your website you say: we should exercise kindness, humility and compassion in our daily practice of religion. Without care, consideration and concern for others, anything else we might do is pointless. […] Our mission is to make outreach available to those non-Jews who already feel deeply for the God of Israel, and who already love Israel and the Jewish people. Our purpose is to spread the peace of the kingdom of God in this world; to be peacemakers, and help the diversity of humanity to get along with each other.
Do Talmidis support:
– US wars on ‘Islamofascist’ terror
– Jewish/Judeocentric/Zionist/neocon-driven genocide in the Balkans, Middle East, Africa
– Judeocentric “US” state dept’s colour and Arab ‘revolutions’ world-wide
– global financial robbery and economic misery by the banksters
– Jew Monsanto’s GMO
– demoralisation by Jew-dominaated Hollywood and porn ‘industry’
– lies by Judeocentric global media
– Judeocentric Frankfurt School’s multi-kulti and immigration
– Zionist lies about goy-caused and -implementd Holocaust and its lesser part, Shoah
– Judeocentric lies about the greatest genocide — the one by Judeo-Bolsheviks and -Communists
– fraudulent claims to restitutions for Jewish properties from Poles, the major victim of Zionist Holocaust and Judeo-Bolshevik red terror
– Judeocentric lies like Poles’ antisemitism drunk with mother’s milk, pogroms and Holocaust villainy
– Zionist Knesset’s official session on antisemitism (of which Poles are now massively accused by Judeocentrics), scheduled on Jan 27, in Auschwitz (Zio-Nazi death camp, now on supposedly sovereign Polish territory), where the Judeocentrics have doctored stats to cut goy victim number by a million while keeping the still-unproven Shoah victim number unchanged?
If no — what do you do against?
If yes — why?
What do you do with non-Jewish people who don’t like all the Jews, and who don’t love Zionist Israel because of the above?
Piotr Bein grypa66.wordpress.com and PiotrBein.wordpress.com
It may seem an odd thing to have a difference over, but did you know that Talmidis don’t observe Purim? The difference is due to the traditions of Babylonian Jewry (whose biblical canon and theology modern Rabbinical Judaism was influenced by), and those of Galilean/Judean Jewry, which influenced the traditions of ancient Followers of the Way.
Purim is considered a “local” Jewish festival, and not a national one (like Chanukkah), nor a biblical festival ordained in Torah (like Passover or Sukkot). The Book of Esther has never been found in the biblical scrolls at Qumran, nor in any ancient bible version anywhere in the Holy Land. It is therefore not included in the canon of the Talmidi Miqra (Hebrew bible). The T’nakh, the canon used by mainstream Jews and Karaites, is also called by us, the “Babylonian canon”, and the canon we use, the “Galilean canon”.
In a way, it is a shame, since the figure of Esther is strong female role model for Jewish women. However, it is vital to understand that the story is not true (see ‘The Jewish Festivals’, Hayyim Schauss, page 238, line 2-3).
As far as we can tell, until the destruction of the Temple, the celebration of Purim was restricted to Babylonian Jewry; it was never popular with Jews in Galilee and Judea (and therefore was not a festival that Yeshua` and his followers would have celebrated). After the destruction of the Temple in 70 CE, Babylonian Jewish practice became the dominant strain, and as a result Purim and other Babylonian Jewish practises (such as the one-year Torah reading cycle) became the norm.
Another thing we should realise is that the events in the story of Esther never happened. There never was a heroine called Esther, or a hero called Mordecai, or an antagonist called Haman, and the real King Ahasuerus was never married to someone called Queen Vashti.
In Babylon, at this precise time of year, the Babylonians celebrated their New Year, the birthday of their king, and also the birthday of their principal god, Marduk. Marduk’s birthday was celebrated with feasting, outlandish costumes, and drinking to the point of unconsciousness.
It should also be pointed out, that not once is ‘God’ mentioned anywhere in the book. Hayyim Schauss says, ‘We get the impression that the writer was somewhat afraid to mention the name of God with this book’, as if afraid to connect the God of Israel with a tale that has its origins in heathen mythology. He goes on to say that, ‘it is easy to see that we have to deal here, …… not with a true story….., but with fantasy and poetry.’
Babylonian Jews got caught up in this, much to the dismay of Jewish elders there. The theory goes that the elders could not dissuade the people from participating in this drunken pagan debauchery, so some way had to be found of removing all the pagan elements of the festival, cleaning it up and giving it a Jewish basis. To this end, the story of Esther was invented. Apparently the goddess Ashtar was part of the Babylonian story; the goddess Ashtar became Esther, and the god Marduk became Mordecai (the names Esther and Mordecai are not even of Hebrew origin).
Purim is therefore a Babylonian Rabbanite festival with pagan origins, so Followers of the Way do not observe it in any way or form. While we do not berate any Rabbanite for observing a festival which is part of their historical Babylonian heritage, we do not observe it ourselves, in witness to our Galilean/Judean religious heritage; our non-observance of Purim is there to emphasise where our tradition comes from.
Sources: Encyclopedia Judaica, and Hayyim Schauss’ “The Jewish Festivals”.
Talmidaism is a loose grouping of sects (such as the Ebionites), who follow the Torah, practice biblical Israelite customs and traditions, accept Jesus as a Jewish prophet, but reject the authority of Paul of Tarsus and the New Testament, the Christian Trinity and the divinity of Jesus. We see ourselves as the spiritual descendants of the early (so-called) ‘Jewish Christians’ of the first and second centuries.
The ethos of our faith
The most profound emphasis of Talmidaism (or ‘The Way’) is the immediate and joyful presence of God; the second most important emphasis in Talmidaism is the Kingdom of God. Talmidaism teaches that we should exercise kindness, humility and compassion in our daily practice of religion. Without care, consideration and concern for others, anything else we might do is pointless. The Way emphasises that all deserve to be included in the kingdom of God – the poor, the outcast and the rejected, and not just those whom religious teachers have judged to be righteous.
Why is our religion called ‘The Way’?
In ancient times, the earliest Jewish followers of Jesus of Nazareth referred to themselves as ‘Followers of the Way’. The term ‘Followers of the Way’ is used twice in the Book of Acts (Acts 22:4 & Acts 24:14). In the New Testament, our philosophy is called “The Way” six times (Acts 9:2, 19:9, 19:23, 22:4, 24:14, 24:22). It is called ‘the Way of God’ three times (Matt 22:16, Mk 12:14, Lk 20:21), and ‘the Way of the Lord’ just once (Acts 18:25). ‘The Way of the LORD’, or more properly, ‘the Way of YHVH’, is the original name of the Israelite religion. Just as ‘the land of Israel’ is shortened to ‘the Land’, and just as ‘the Festival of Booths’ is shortened to ‘the Festival’, so also ‘the Way of YHVH’ was abbreviated to simply ‘The Way’. This is a telling insight into the intent of Yeshua`’s teaching. Far from seeking to break away from the faith of his ancestors and create a new religion, what he was actually trying to do was bring people back to the true ideals of the original Israelite religion – justice, compassion and mercy.
How we view Jesus of Nazareth (Yeshua` of Natsaret)
We view Yeshua` as a fully human, Jewish prophet, who was called by God to deliver a message to His people. Just as Amos and Jeremiah were prophets of the Assyrian and Babylonian exiles respectively, so we believe that Yeshua` was meant to have been a prophet of the Roman exile. By calling Israel back to the true heart of Torah – compassion and justice – God showed Yeshua` how the people of Israel would survive this exile. However, Yeshua` is not the centre of our faith, our faith is in YHVH alone; it is not the person of Yeshua` who is important to us, but rather his message.
How we differ from Christianity
There are some major ways in which we differ from mainstream Christianity:
- We reject the trinity; instead, we believe in One, indivisible God – YHVH, the God of Israel – who has no physical form.
- We reject Yeshua`’s divinity; instead we believe that he was a mortal man, called by the God of his ancestors to be a Jewish prophet.
- We reject the virgin birth; instead, we believe that he was born of normal human parentage.
- We reject the notion that he died to atone for sin, or that his death had anything to do with salvation; instead we believe that his was a cruel, unjust death at the hands of the Roman authorities.
- We reject the authority of the teachings of Paul of Tarsus (‘St. Paul’); instead we believe that he was an apostate from Judaism, and that the main beliefs of the Christian religion come from his writings, not the words of Yeshua`. We would even go so far as to say that Paul, not Yeshua`, was the true founder of the belief-system known today as Christianity.
How we differ from mainstream Judaism
Modern Judaism for the most part is based on the teachings of the Rabbis, not on the Torah & the Prophets (or the Miqra – our two terms for the Tanakh, or Hebrew Bible). We believe that the pronouncements of Yeshua`, where he seemingly speaks against Torah, are in fact criticisms of the Oral Law of the Pharisees (and of their inheritors, the Rabbis). For this reason, we reject the authority of the Talmud. Therefore, we have a number of practices that are different from those of mainstream Judaism. Our tradition is closer to the practices of Karaite Jews, who also reject rabbinical authority. For example, our New Year is in the First Month of the Jewish year, not in the seventh; Shavu‘ot (the Festival of Weeks) is always on a Sunday; we proudly wear techelet (blue cords) on the corner fringes of our tallitot (prayer shawls); and we don’t wear t’fillin (phylacteries or prayer boxes) on our foreheads; this practise is a literal reading of the passages following the Shema`. Also, because our traditions stem from those of Galilee and Judea, and because those of mainstream Judaism stem from the traditions of Babylonian Jewry, some of our customs are different. We have elders and scribes, not rabbis; our bibles follow the Galilean canon, and so don’t contain the Book of Esther; we don’t observe Purim (it was a local Babylonian Jewish festival); and we read Torah in three years, not one.
It should be stated clearly from the outset, that we do not missionise fellow Jews; we feel that Jews do not need converting, since they already worship YHVH. Our mission is to make outreach available to those non-Jews who already feel deeply for the God of Israel, and who already love Israel and the Jewish people [emphasis PB]. Our purpose is to spread the peace of the kingdom of God in this world; to be peacemakers, and help the diversity of humanity to get along with each other. We also need to make people aware that the historical faith of the first Jewish followers of Yeshua` is still alive. We know that there are many people who are dissatisfied with the beliefs of mainstream Christianity, but are unaware that there is a viable, historical alternative.